Stern.de interviews Arnie Lerma: Criticism of Tom Cruise "A propaganda minister of the present" for Scientology

A unofficial translation of the very recent Stern.de interview with Arnie Lerma:

Tom Cruise- A propaganda minister of the present
Kritik an Tom Cruise: 'Ein Propagandaminister der Gegenwart' -
Lifestyle - stern.de 1/30/2008

Criticism of Tom Cruise
"A propaganda minister of the present"

The Cruise-Goebbels comparison of TV historian Guido Knopp has triggered controversial discussions. In stern.de interview explained Arnie Lerma, America Scientology's number one enemy, which he compared to perfectly justified.

Arnie Lerma is considered the best known Scientology critics in the United States. From his 18th Let on he was part of the group. In his ten years of Scientology, he climbed up into the elite Sea Organization ". When Lerma and the daughter of founder L. Ron Hubbard, Suzette Hubbard, fell in love and the wanted to get married, he was under considerable pressure by Scientology to end the relationship. Finally, it came to a Florida hours of interrogation. Lerma:

"The deal was: 'We will give you a guarantee of safe passage out of the state of Florida with all body parts attached if you tell Suzette Hubbard the marriage is off.' "

Lerma turned his back on Scientology, and since 1992 he deals intensively with researching and exposing the methods of the group. It was in the mid-nineties that the now 57-year-old made the original documents of the science-fiction-like Scientology doctrine public worldwide for the first time made. Lerma, who operates the Web site www.lermanet.com was therefore Scientology by sued.



Interview:
Mr. Lerma, that German historian said of Cruise in that video of the phrase "Are we gonna clean up this place?" Says, compared with Joseph Goebbels. The Germans once asked: "Do you want total war?". Did quite the historian - or he exaggerates?
(c) AP/Andrew Medichini

Is the historian right - or is he exaggerating?

"The parallels to a minister of propaganda aren't far fetched. The concept of a total war is deeply rooted in the mindset of every convinced scientologist. "Clean this place up" means "clear the planet" - which means to cleanse Earth of all enemies of Scientology. Cruise mediates an ideology of hate. He also does it whenever he speaks about "suppressive persons", who are enemies of Scientology, so called "suppresives". There is a Scientology textbook named
"Shattering Suppression". On the cover you can see a face being shattered."

"Unlike the latest Cruise biography, which calls him the 2nd most important Scientologist, I would take it one step further: Cruise is the most important Scientologist of them all, because he is the best promoter of the organization. So, indeed he is some kind of minister of propaganda."

Are comparisons with the "Third Reich" not generally covered?

"If you take a closer look at the whole thing, you can see it: the way Scientology does things undercover and makes propaganda for its own ideas is identical to the totalitarian dogma of the Third Reich. The obscure Scientology slang, which Tom Cruise uses as well, is nothing but a cover-up tactic. The strange diction hides the horrible goals and the obvious historic precursors. This language makes scrutinization very difficult, because most people have never heard of made-up terms like "suppressive person". The master-plan is to hide the true dimension of the whole thing."

" Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard wanted to program members of Scientology in a way, that makes euthanasia seem like a feasible alternative, instead of fulfilling the needs of a human society. Hubbard was hoping that one day, when enough people realized what Scientology really is, it would already be too late. He said: "Because of that, we have to make sure that (on that day) we are the ones who so say what is the law and what is not."

Nevertheless, the Scientologist Cruise has just played Count Stauffenberg, also an opponent of Hitler.

"Shooting the movie "Valkyrie" had a lot in common with a diversionary tactic. It's stage magic. It's supposed to get the attention of the Germans and focus it into another direction, so they won't be aware of how dangerous the organization really is. I'm pretty sure, that the minds behind Scientology knew exactly why Cruise chose to shoot "Valkyrie", and why he chose to shoot it in Germany. They have an agenda. Because of their history, Germans tend to see the ideology of Scientology for what it really is. Plus: their country (Germany) shares its history with people from around the world. "Valkyrie" was a pre-emptive measure to take the wind out of the critics' sails. It's just another cover-up tactic"

And Cruise is part of this tactic?

"Yes. He truly believes, what other people tell him to believe. The videos of him prove it. At the same time, they show the psychological warfare, that the organization uses against its own members, in order to keep them trapped in some sort of dream-world. How are we supposed to take those people seriously? A scientologist believes, that the spirits of dead aliens are inside his body."


Interview: Jof Isert
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My God,! Arnie Lerma did it! He managed to get that message out to the very people who will be able to understand it the most and be able to do something with it!! Excellent!! Together with the video is priceless

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The video of Cruise accepting his award is against this backdrop of information. There are links to many other articles on scientology, seemingly all current and including another interview by a german fellow.

Mary McConnell

"The World's Largest Global Scam" is The Church of Scientology

Of the Tom Cruise Video, Lerma says "Scientology is the World's Largest Global Scam"

Arnie Lerma of Lermanet.com discusses "the video the Church of Scientology did not want you to see".

Here he's interviewed on January 16, 2008, by SKY tv UK, a UK Satellite TV broadcaster run by Rupert Murdoch, from the DC Fox News affiliate station about the bizzare claims Tom Cruise made in the video.

He says " Scientology is the World's Largest Global Scam. " " It's based on hypnosis and the propaganda techniques that built the Third Reich."

I was unable to catch the anchor's name but he's with Sky's 24 hour MOR news channel. This and other interviews about the Tom Cruise video played every 20 minutes round the clock, I suppose much to the dismay of the Church of Scientology:




Arnie Lerma has the distinct unofficial title of being Scientology's most persistent and effective ex-member critic on the internet and in the history of the church. No matter what the church has done to him to try and stop his efforts to inform the world about the 'con game' he calls Scientology, he's never given up.
He has helped thousands and thousands of people by helping make the internet a viable and accessable place to get the critical facts and information people need in order to know and understand the Church of Scientology.

Back in 1995 Scientology sued Lerma, his ISP: Digital Gateway, The Washington Post, and investigative journalists Richard Leiby and Marc Fisher. The lawsuit was filed against Lerma and his Internet service provider by the church's Religious Technology Center, (RTC), claiming copyright infringement and trade secret misappropriation. " In that case the "The Washington Post, et al were released from the suit when USDJ Leonie Brinkema ruled in a memorandum on Nov 28, 1995:
"When the RTC first approached the Court with its ex parte request for the seizure warrant and temporary restraining order, the dispute was presented as a straight-forward one under copyright and trade secret law. However, the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. As the increasingly vitriolic rhetoric of its briefs and oral argument now demonstrates, the RTC appears far more concerned about criticism of Scientology than vindication of its secrets."

(Memorandum Opinion of November 28, 1995, by U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema; Religious Technology Center v. Arnaldo Lerma, Washington Post, Mark Fisher, and Richard Leiby)

The Memorandum Opinion acknowledges what critics believe Scientology practices to this day: the "Fair Game" policy, a written directive by L. Ron Hubbard that encourages harassment of anyone who speaks out against the church.

In conclusion, the court awarded RTC the statutory minimum of $2,500 for five instances of non-willful copyright violation."

Lerma has researched Scientology for many years to determine how it was that he gave the organization 10 uears of his life, as so many others have in the promised hopes of becoming happy and godlike. You can find much of his research at Lermanet.com

Grateful thanks to youtube's quentinkrisp for getting the interviews up on the internet:
Tom Cruise & Scientology: Career Death 1of4

Tom Cruise & Scientology: Career Death 2of4

Tom Cruise & Scientology: Career Death 3of4

Tom Cruise & Scientology: Career Death 4of4


* quentinkrisp Note to YouTube Legal:
These fair use reportage clips are owned by my friend Rupert. They are not the property of the so called "Church" of Scientology or the hetrosexual actor Tom Cruise. If you actually bother to watch the clip then you'll see that any tiny percentage of non-rupert footage clearly passes the legal test of News Reportage with respect to copyright claims on the whole clip.