Wednesday, September 27, 2006


What's the deal here?
Rev Al Buttnor working for them and writing these pages?

FYI:Scientology running the Armed Services chaplaincaresite?
NOTE: Required responses are in red. boldface. and italics.
Requests for personal information require a signature and can not be
processed through this online form. Instead, please follow the Privacy
Act request instructions. (Personal information includes, but is not
limited to, information about current or former service members and
employees of the Department of the Navy.)

Dear FOIA Officer:

This is a request filed under the Freedom of Information Act. I

Tell what kind of record(s) you are requesting. Select one of these.
a copy of the following documents be provided to me:
documents containing the following information be provided to me:
all documents containing information regarding the following topic be
provided to me:
I would like to have all electronic and writtten correspondence and
documentation related to the acceptance of the information and sources
of information used in the the creation and the maintenance of the
website information of this page:

I would like all informational documents related to supervisory approval
for this to be on the internet.
I was alerted to it by a newsgroup post and I am very concerned about
the biased information you have on that web page. Before I can address
the=is with the person in control, I would like all infomation and
documents related to how it came to be alowed, created and
dissemminated to navy personnel.

This is on the navy's website..........

>Narconon is a rehabilitation program, assisting individuals to overcome their drug dependencies. Their Purification Rundown procedure involves exercise, sauna, vitamins and drills. Narcanon has 37 locations in Canada, United States and other countries. Independent studies have showed that about 75% of Narconon graduates have remained off drugs when they were checked two years after completing the program. This is a success rate that is considerably higher than most programs.

What independent studies????????? Sound like a member of scientology
wrote this and it needs to be corrected. I have already writen, your
turn. "
Thank you
Subject: DON CASE FILE NO. XXXXXXXXX; Acknowledgement Letter
Date: 9/21/2006 4:00:30 PM Eastern Standard Time

Dear xxxxxxxxxxx
Your Freedom of Information Act request of September 15, 2006, in which
you seek information about the Navy Chaplain website, was received by
this office on September 18, 2006, and assigned DON Case File No.

If you have any questions regarding your request, please contact
Shaw at (202) 685-6530 between the hours of 0600-1500, or email your
inquiry to


Sarah English
Head, CNO/SECNAV FOIA Requester Service Center
(202) 685-6546

Original Message-----
From: FOIA Website []
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 18:47
To: Lama, Doris OPNAV
Cc: English, Sarah CNO
Subject: Online FOIA Request


Request type: topic

Records Requested: I was alerted by a newsgroup post that you have
misinformation on your web site.
I saw many inaccuracies. I was a member for 18 yrs, and I am not
I am very concerned. A balanced view can be seen from:
I would like to have all electronic and written correspondence and
documentation related to the acceptance of the information and sources
of information, supervisory approval for data used in the the creation
and the maintenance of the scientology programs section of this page
if there was any monetary exchange given:
The newsgroup post:Ok Everyone, It's Time to Write the Navy This is on
the navy's website..........
Thank you.

Requestor Status: Individual

News Media:

Fee or Waiver: waiverrequested

Amount of Fee

Waiver Explanation: I am dismayed that the website contains false and
misleading information contributed by Church Of Scientology & it's
affiliate organizations and members which have not met scientific
standards and government credibility procedures required to ensure
accuracy, which may cause Navy personnel, their families and internet
public to be seriously misled.
I believe public need to know how resources and references and facts
obtained for placement on government web sites, particularly those
which provide information for personnel and public.It would be a
financial burden for me to personally pay the fees. I will ensure the
documents received are provided to the webmaster of the webpage first,
so that the page can be reviewed and corrected.

Address: xxxxxxxxxx


City: xxxxxxxxxxxx

State: xx

Zip Code: xxxxx

IP Address: xxxxxxxx
DON CASE FILE NO. xxxxxxxxx My 9/15/06 request ( rec'd by your office

Google cache link of original page. Internet Archives cache for:

Dear Ms Shaw,

Per our conversation, the original page I requested documentation on
was changed after 9/17/06. Google took a cache of it on 9/17/06 before
it was changed. It is this page that my request began with and I want
to ensure that you have all the information related to the purpose and
need of that request.

As of today, google shows a cache update of the page dated 9/23, which
is consistent with the current page that omits what I wrote
about.Fortunately, I downloaded the 9/17 cache as a safemeasure.

Additional documentation: Internet Archive
The web page listing Scientology programs Narconon and Purification, as
seen on the 9/17/06 cache attached can also be seen at the via the
Internet Archive via Wayback Machine. This page was archived 93
timesover at the Internet Archive from Sept 19, 2001- Mar 7, 2005 (- *
denotes when site was updated. )

Since this web site stopped participating in the archiving of this
page, you can use the information on the found archived pages as a
foundation for my request but the 9/15/06 thru 9/17/06 page should be
completely compared to current and previous pages in the event changes
occurred in the interim.*/

My request concerns primarily the content requiring verificationof
statements claimed as fact: ie Scientology Programs Narconon &
Purification programs, mentioned as I saw it on 9/17/06 ,which you can
see in the attached download copy of the cached page.

Sadly, the current page is now more biased than when I made the
complaint! Numerous important statements and links that added some
balance to the information scientology provides is now gone. As I
requested, I want to know who is making the decisions for this page.
Additionally, why the critical information is no longer up there. I
think I am entitled to this since the page was changed before the
online request from their web page reached your office on 9/18/06

Thank you for your assistance;

Attached: my file copy 9/17/06 google cache htm
( link below takes you to updated 9/23/06 cache)

Copy of the dated pages available in the Internet Archive as of today:

Searched for
93 Results
* denotes when site was updated.
Search Results for Jan 01, 1996 - Sep 25, 2006
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To be continued...........

Saturday, September 23, 2006


Purinton Pictures presents

FRIEND OF MANKIND by Karl-Rainer Blumenthal

"Friend of Mankind (2006) is a non-fiction documentary film about writer L. Ron Hubbard, his devoted celebrity followers and those who have died through his prescribed methods for the Church of Scientology. It is comprised primarily of footage from film and television interviews."

Blumenthal's 2006 documentary takes a critical look at the
"accomplishments, controversies and followers of L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology, comprised of American, English and German television broadcasts from the last 37 years"

Run time: 30:38
Directed by Karl-Rainer Blumenthal
Produced by Purinton Pictures
Featuring footage of

L. Ron Hubbard
Ron DeWolf
Mike Rinder
Heber Jentzsch
Robert Vaughn Young
Tom Cruise
John Travolta

I am impressed! 22 year old Bryn Mawr & Haversford College graduate student, archivist and film maker Karl-Rainer Blumenthal has created an excellent collage of Hubbard's legacy

As a former long time member of scientology, I can tell you that this film shows what the Cult of Scientology never wanted anyone to see, whether they were a member or not.

I cried after it was over. It was very cathartic for me. Blumenthal is a filmmaker to remember.

Meet Karl-Rainer Blumenthal, Film maker, Humtone

Where to go to download or view the video All formats: (1-4 parts)

comments or complaints:

Sunday, September 17, 2006


KCAA Radio, Vince Daniels and crew had a great show yesterday.
Check it out:

'The Many Moods' will go where few A.M. talk shows dare to go on Saturday, September 16th when host, Vince Daniels not only takes on the Church of Scientology, but moreover devotes a good chunk of his 3 live hours talking to experts on cults as well as former church members and with those currently involved in Scientology, who will have what Daniels calls "an open forum" to call in and challenge the guests.

FREE MINDS SPEAK OUT SEPT. 16 ON K.C.A.A. Scientology and religious cults in general to be exposed.

See The Show at XENU TV

Followup from Vince Daniels:

From: -
Date:Sun, Sep 17 2006 1:25 am
Groups: alt.religion.scientology

I appreciated reading over the blow by blow account of you who either listened and/or viewed the KCAA webstream today. I wish I could have gotten to all the calls. If there were any of you on hold that I did not get to, my apologies. I plan on doing a follow-up 3 hour show in the next four to possibly six weeks from now.
Below is a link to the guest book on the KCAA "comment page" over on KCAARADIO dot com. I would truly appreciate any of you letting the owner and management of the station know how you felt about todays show, positive or negative as they closely monitor the comments. Be sure to mention my name or the name of the show, "The Many Moods of Vince Daniels" if you are so inclined. A link that takes you directly to the guest book is provided below. And thanks in advance!
KCAA Radio GuestBook

Saturday, September 16, 2006

Scientologists I Have Known.. more pics

Some of these posts have links so you can see where I found the pics.

I have to go and scan more pics.



UPDATED: April 2008

I am new to creating pages with FACES so expect the layouts and pages to change soon. I would really like to have more pics per page & the compilation to be different.

Do you know who any of these people are? I do.

There are memories for at least one of the people per picture, some good. Some bad. Each tells a story. Short or long, good or bad, each story is part of my history when I was a Scientologist.
I have much to say, but that is for another day. Pictures first!


A few of the many faces of my past while a member of Scientology. Can you guess who is who?

Saturday, September 09, 2006

Scientologists & Ex-Scientologists with Christian Roots

From: formerlyfooled - view profile
Date:Sat, Sep 9 2006 12:40 am
Groups: alt.religion.scientology ( edited for typos 1:31 am)
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Anyone, including Scientolgists, can turn to God. Many quietly have and they've gained spiritual and mental strength to get through the storms of change as they leave the scientologist life behind forever.

The meaning and purpose of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is far more glorious and significant than the destructive goals of 'clearing a mind' the Hubbard way. The result is a false sense of self in the pursuit of a false spiritual state. Hubbard made it so that we would want to eliminate our time track, just as Creed Pearson mentioned recently. But a Scientologist is supposed to know how to know even when he doesn't have a clue.

I am a survivor of years of Scientology indoctrination and experience. Without my faith in God, I would not be able to even begin to talk about it here. I turned to the God who never gave up on me even when I had given up on him. If you have ever known the love of God, even the christian faith in particular, then the Holy Spirit will speak to you and you will naturally respond.
Jesus said:

"I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." John 10:14

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." Matthew Ch 11:v29-30
"As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. "John 10:15

"Interestingly, biblical faith isn't believing against the evidence. Instead, faith is a kind of knowing that results in action. The clearest definition comes from Hebrews 11:1. This verse says, 'Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.' In fact, when the New Testament talks about faith positively it only uses words derived from the greek root [pistis] which means 'to be persuaded.' In those verses from Hebrews, we find the words, 'hope', 'assurance', 'conviction' that is, confidence. Now, what gives us this confidence?"

Christian faith is not belief in the absence of evidence. It is the proper response to the evidence. Koukl, 'Christian faith cares about the evidence...the facts matter. You can't have assurance for something you don't know you're going to get. You can only hope for it. This is why the resurrection of Jesus is so important. It gives assurance to the hope. Because of a Christian view of faith, Paul is able to say in 1 Corinthians 15 that when it comes to the resurrection, if we have only hope, but no assurance - if Jesus didn't indeed rise from the dead in time/space history - then we are of most men to be pitied. This confidence Paul is talking about is not a confidence in a mere 'faith' resurrection, a mythical resurrection, a story-telling resurrection. Instead, it's a belief in a real resurrection. If the real resurrection didn't happen, then we're in trouble. The Bible knows nothing of a bold leap-in-the-dark faith, a hope-against-hope faith, a faith with no evidence. Rather, if the evidence doesn't correspond to the hope, then the faith is in vain, as even Paul has said.'

So in conclusion, faith is not a kind of religious hoping that you do in spite of the facts. In fact, faith is a kind of knowing that results in doing. A knowing that is so passionately and intelligently faithful to Jesus Christ that it will not submit to fideism, scientism, nor any other secularist attempt to divert and cauterize the human soul by hijacking knowledge."

"Faith is about 'just trusting' God isn't It?" Tom Price

Friday, September 08, 2006

Former Scientologist Tom Weeks On What Was So Good About Something So Bad

Another Article Scientology Does Not Want You To Know About:

Tom Weeks of Denver, worked for 1 year as a Sea Org member of the Church of Scientology before severing his billion year contract and moving on.

Yet moving on and trying to explain to family and friends why you got involved in this cult in the first place was no easy task. 15 years + later after he left, he posted his thoughts about what was so good about something so bad as Scientology.

"Feeling Good and Certainty in Scientology From an Ex-Sea Org Member Who Never Got Auditing."

Sunday, September 03, 2006

Taking a Stand

Taking a Stand!

Over at at Google's alt.religion.scientology group I read a copy of a very courageous post by a Dr. Donna Shannon, who recently left the cult.

She originally posted this and others to the popular OCMB Operation Clambake Message Board. Since I am new at this blog stuff, I ask that you go to the link below and read it for yourself.

It provides insight into the Church of Scientology and, more importantly, inspiration for those wanting out.

Dr. Donna Shannon: My Personal "Wake-Up Call"

Thank you Dr. Shannon!

Scientology and Hubbard : Anti-Christianity & Anti-Christ

I love the web site by Creed Pearson. He was the first to state what so many of us knew, that Hubbard is an anti-Christ. Now read why:

This audio clip is profound in it's accuracy: Silentology29august2006 wma 3.71 mb 21 mins.

Read Discovering Scientology's Greatest Secrets and Why I Was Silenced- Part One
by Creed Judson Pearson III aka Creek Hosted by

When you're ready and up to the task, read this "How To Disconnect"

30 minute lecture by Creed Pearson, MP3 18mb Introduction to Silentology

Thank you, Mr.Creed Judson Pearson III !!

Free From Fear- Summing It Up

There is nothing quite like the truth to set a person free.

10HiddenTruths wants you to read

The 10 Hidden Truths of Scientology

Here is the complete alley.ethercat web site interview:

Scientology - Through the Door Interviews

Sunday, 27th August, 2006 12:48:29pm
Name or Alias: 10HiddenTruths
Training and/or processing level: OT 8
Org or location: Flag
Time involved in the Church of Scientology: 21 Years
Recommended Website -

1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of Scientology?
Friend gave me a book.

2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
It first appeared that Scientology had all the answers
but then I did Clear to OT 8.

3. Were there problems in your life that you thought scientology would address?
Some drug use, not heavy.

4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
Members were declared suppressive at the drop of a hat. Hubbard said that 2 1/2 percent of people were suppressive but it looked like the church was declaring far more than that.

5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of Scientology?
Thought it was the way out of this universe and a road to total freedom and not just a road between the church and my bank accounts.

6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?

7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a "final straw"?

The 10 Hidden Truths of Scientology
The 10 Things Tom Cruise Doesn’t Believe are True About Scientology

1) Scientologists have accidents, get sick and die at about the same rate as non-Scientologists.
2) Scientologists who rely on the church to cure their cancer or any other disease (which many have) will or have died of that disease.
3) No Scientologist IQ has ever been raised any significant amount by applying Scientology or Dianetics. IQ scores are raised slightly only by taking the same IQ test over and over and over and over again. That’s the true Scientology method for raising IQ.
4) Nearly all OT 8’s (highest spiritual state) are doing the same work and making around the same amount of money as their non-Scientology peers.
5) 100% of all OT 8’s have no OT powers, that is, able to leave their body, move objects, recall past lifetime skills, etc. All 10 Hidden Truths also apply to OT 8's.
6) No Scientologist can give you any verifiable details about any past life, even their immediate past life. Details like their full name, parent’s names, children's names, places they lived, etc.
7) No Scientologist can prove they are stably exterior (out of the body) with full perception. Such as reading a credit card number 3 inches behind their head.

8) No Scientologist will ever be allowed to do their own Mission Into Time (verify their own past life’s), as Hubbard appeared to do. Hubbard knew it couldn’t be done.
9) No Scientologist can prove they are a spiritual being.

10) No Scientologist is or ever will be totally free as a spiritual being.
8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those practices affect your life?
It's on a fixed track, it can't change without bringing down the whole church.

9. If the items you listed in the previous question were changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of Scientology? If so, why?

10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
Please send the 10 Hidden Truths About Scientology to all your Scientology friends and anybody you know who is thinking about joining the church. Hopefully they will stop and think about what they are about to do or, if a member, decide it's time to stop, before the church
drains them of all their money and self-respect.

Through The Door Interviews