Saturday, September 09, 2006

Scientologists & Ex-Scientologists with Christian Roots

From: formerlyfooled - view profile
Date:Sat, Sep 9 2006 12:40 am
Groups: alt.religion.scientology ( edited for typos 1:31 am)
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Anyone, including Scientolgists, can turn to God. Many quietly have and they've gained spiritual and mental strength to get through the storms of change as they leave the scientologist life behind forever.

The meaning and purpose of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is far more glorious and significant than the destructive goals of 'clearing a mind' the Hubbard way. The result is a false sense of self in the pursuit of a false spiritual state. Hubbard made it so that we would want to eliminate our time track, just as Creed Pearson mentioned recently. But a Scientologist is supposed to know how to know even when he doesn't have a clue.

I am a survivor of years of Scientology indoctrination and experience. Without my faith in God, I would not be able to even begin to talk about it here. I turned to the God who never gave up on me even when I had given up on him. If you have ever known the love of God, even the christian faith in particular, then the Holy Spirit will speak to you and you will naturally respond.
Jesus said:

"I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." John 10:14

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." Matthew Ch 11:v29-30
"As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. "John 10:15

"Interestingly, biblical faith isn't believing against the evidence. Instead, faith is a kind of knowing that results in action. The clearest definition comes from Hebrews 11:1. This verse says, 'Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.' In fact, when the New Testament talks about faith positively it only uses words derived from the greek root [pistis] which means 'to be persuaded.' In those verses from Hebrews, we find the words, 'hope', 'assurance', 'conviction' that is, confidence. Now, what gives us this confidence?"

Christian faith is not belief in the absence of evidence. It is the proper response to the evidence. Koukl, 'Christian faith cares about the evidence...the facts matter. You can't have assurance for something you don't know you're going to get. You can only hope for it. This is why the resurrection of Jesus is so important. It gives assurance to the hope. Because of a Christian view of faith, Paul is able to say in 1 Corinthians 15 that when it comes to the resurrection, if we have only hope, but no assurance - if Jesus didn't indeed rise from the dead in time/space history - then we are of most men to be pitied. This confidence Paul is talking about is not a confidence in a mere 'faith' resurrection, a mythical resurrection, a story-telling resurrection. Instead, it's a belief in a real resurrection. If the real resurrection didn't happen, then we're in trouble. The Bible knows nothing of a bold leap-in-the-dark faith, a hope-against-hope faith, a faith with no evidence. Rather, if the evidence doesn't correspond to the hope, then the faith is in vain, as even Paul has said.'

So in conclusion, faith is not a kind of religious hoping that you do in spite of the facts. In fact, faith is a kind of knowing that results in doing. A knowing that is so passionately and intelligently faithful to Jesus Christ that it will not submit to fideism, scientism, nor any other secularist attempt to divert and cauterize the human soul by hijacking knowledge."

"Faith is about 'just trusting' God isn't It?" Tom Price