Friday, April 18, 2008

'Anonymous, Nono Le Clown, Karen Pouw, the French gov't and why Rev. John Wetzel says US politicians won't talk about Scientology on the record.'





'Anonymous, Nono Le Clown, Karen Pouw, the French gov't and why Rev. John Wetzel says US politicians won't talk about Scientology on the record.'

French Scientologist and PR / 'black PR ' cult spokesperson, Karen Pouw, is working very hard lobbying the french gov't to get it's cult status whitewashed. Certainly keeping the press away from the Anonymous movement and the Martine Boublil kidnapping story is a priority.

More on Martine Boublil : " freed from Scientology; The Italian police recovered the sister of Dr. Scientologist"

There was a flap at one point when Miss Emmanuelle Mignon, the new Office Director of the presidency at l'Elysée, made mention in a speech that some groups labeled cults like Scientology were really not cults. This caused an uproar in France, and as Roger tells it, she wasn't informed correctly and is now corrected on the matter.

Pouw thought she had a win on that one but ss former church of scientology of Lyon France executive now critic Roger Gonnet stated:

"The story about Emmanuelle Mignon, the Office Director of Sarkozy, whom I visited for more than an hour some weeks ago after her declaration, as Pouw said, is now totally false indeed, here is the story that I know very well. Miss Mignon was'nt informed correctly 'from under', and did ignore a lot of facts about cults when she pronounced the sentences. Just after her unchecked speech about scientology and cults (two very short sentences where she said "Cults are a no-problem, that she denied having said, and "regarding Scientology, I don't know them, but one can wonder"), three TVs, four radios and some newspapers interviewed me about what she said. I thought what was the best solution, being certain that she could'nt have pronounced these sentences if she had known, I decided to say that I'll ask her a rendez-vous. I did two days later and got an answer very fast; I met her more than an hour along on a friday evening, with not the least interruption, announcing her that on saturday, she would find a great article also in the media - that was the Boublil affair. I let her my book 'La Secte' " for further information.

Pouw is very wrong saying that the climate changed, since as soon as Miss Mignon had said this erroneous utterance, medias exploded of articles insisting on her wrongness and on the cults problems. The president was immediately alerted and said that the cults WERE a real problem, and the Prime Minister announced that the MIVILUDES ways would be reinforced."


I agree and am grateful for the work Roger and Anonymous is doing there. One can read more on Roger Gonnet's visit with the French officials on this matter here

So, Scientology is widely considered a cult in France. The people there have access to their representatives so a protest is not necessarily a need to gain their attention, as it is here in the US where reporter Emmanuelle Richard was unable to get a quote about Anonymous' concerns about the cult of Scientology from ANY politician in the US for her article which came out yesterday on the Anonymous v
Scientology issue in the USA in the mainstream french publication Liberation:

Guerrilla hidden against Scientology
or you can read the article in French


So, while the Anonymous movement in France appears to be small, the viewpoint among
the french people is that Scientology a cult is widespread.

Here are some quotes from Ms. Richard's blog piece, which includes parts of her article that did not make it into Liberation piece. This gives a good picture of the situation here in the USA vs France in the need for people to protest loudly and anonymously:

April 13, 2008 Anonymous: 9,000 on Operation Reconnect?(updated)by french journalist and Washington DC correspondent, Emmanuelle Richard says:

[..]Today's French daily Libération ran my story about the fascinating Anonymous movement critical of Scientology (click here for a Google Translation), as seen from the U.S. The paper version has a gallery of photos of masked "Anons" taken during the Paris demonstration on Saturday, complete with their somewhat inspirational leader Nono Le Clown (read Renaud Lecadre's account of the very small demonstration
here.) This third edition of Anonymous' global protest was called "Operation Reconnect" and I wish I could have attended the Washington demo but I'm on vacation outside of the U.S. Anonymous forums seem to say that between 200 and 300 people showed up in the U.S. capital,roughly as many as on March 15, when I came across their previous demonstration by accident:.[..]

[..]
Due to the lack of space, the paper didn't end up running a sidebar on the surprisingly low participaion in France: "I don't think that [Anonymous] really exists in France," said Karin Pouw, a Church of Scientology International spokeswoman, before mentioning with satisfaction that "the situation has changed" (in February, French president Nicolas Sarkozy's Head of Cabinet, Emmanuelle Mignon,
questioned the use of the word "cult" to describe Scientology.)
Here's how French Anons explain the lack of involvement in the usually demonstration-happy France: this is due to the English-only (until very recently) content on Anonymous' main websites and forums and the fact that "Scientology is just not visible in France," according to a young computer guy and key French Anon.

When a cult is recognized as such in a country, "people don't have the same motivation [as in the U.S.] to fight for the cause." A point worth mentioning: CoS opponents such as Nono Le Clown seem to be able to line up meetings with elected officials "of different parties" to express their concerns about Scientology.

Getting to talk to your representative about Scientology is another story in the United States, and I wish this aspect could have been mentioned in more detail in the Liberation article. I contacted several lobbyists, politicians who have a reputation for being weary of cults, and the American Psychiatric Association (Scientology is actively fighting against psychiatry) and they either all declined or ignored my requests for comments for this article. "Many elected officials and religious leaders are afraid to say publicly what they tell me privately: some of them tell me that they've already been intimidated by the Church of Scientology," said Rev. John Wetzel, a critic who acts as a de facto unpaid "representative" for Scientology detractors in Washington. Arnie Lerma, a former CoS member turned
opponent is more blunt: "We’re fighting in guerilla warfare style because there is no courage in Washington.” [..]

http://www.emmanuelle.net/2008/04/anonymous_12_000_on_operation.html

Indeed it's a war and we are winning it by perseverence and getting the facts out to the public.

However, there is work to be done to dispell the image David Miscavige and Karen Pouw are trying to fix in the minds of those they try to influence on behalf of Scientology. Let the people of France know how important Anonymous is in helping unmask the business practices of the cult of Scientology by reading Emmanuelle Richard's blog and article in Liberation and commenting your postition. As well, let the US government representatives know you want them to take a stand against and investigate the dangers of The Church of Scientology and it's the exempt status. You can find out more on this here:

Read the 'ACTION ALERT FROM REV. JOHN WETZEL' over at Lermanet

Mary
http://tinyurl.com/576j4n

1 comment:

EDDIE said...

How do you free your mind from a cult’s mind control tactics?
First ask yourself these simple questions:

IS IT A GODLESS CULT? OR IS IT A TRUE RELIGION? HOW CAN YOU TELL?

Are your friends or relatives in a Godless Cult? Are YOU?

These are the typical signs of a GODLESS CULT.


# 1. Check to see if it gives any kind of lie detector tests to its own members, even if they don’t call the machine a lie detector.

#2. Are the confessionals and security checks completely voluntary or required or forced?

#3. Do they use your own confessions against you if you break away? And do they threaten you with exposing your sins and secrets to the law, or to your family, your boss and your neighbors, if you expose their crimes?

#4. Do they have their own “Church” staff working as armed or unarmed guards or security personnel?

#5. Have they ever locked up anyone? Or have they ever detained anyone against their will? Did you ever look up news stories about lawsuits against your group? Or read the court records on these cases?

#6. Do its members have complete freedom to talk to anyone? Even to ex-members or opponents of the group?

#7. Do they punish you or black list you or give you lie detector tests for talking to ex-members?

#8. Do they consider it a crime or a sin against their group, if you talk to ex-members?

#9. Do they restrict you from viewing or reading any kind of material or data, or reading the websites of ex-members?

#10. Are you allowed to knowingly buy books, data or written material from an ex-member?

#11. Are you required to break-away or disconnect from your family and friends if they strongly disagree with the group? Or are you required to get special training to ‘handle” them? Are you trained to communicate with them, as if what they say must be belittled and/or side-tracked or ignored?

#12. Do they consider ex-members who voluntarily left as – being evil people?

#13. Do they purposely seek to hurt, harm, damage, defame, sue, slander or libel ex-members without due cause, proof or valid claim?

#14. Can you freely -- visit with or associate with or date or marry ex-members who disagree with the group or who have broken away from the group?

#15. Do they worship or pray to GOD or do they worship a plain ordinary man?

#16. Are Sunday services voluntary? What happens if you refuse to attend? And are you allowed to leave in the middle if you wanted to -- without asking for permission or being forced to take a security check?

#17. Are Sunday services about God, the saints, heaven or hell etc., or about a plain ordinary man and his opinions about evil people called SPs?

#18. Do they ask for people’s names and addresses, and secretly look them up on their data base when new “public” visits them off the street?

#19. Do they use lawsuits of copyright protections to hurt and destroy, rather than to protect their rights from abuse?

#20. Do they constant ask for “donations” which are not voluntary – but required? What if you refuse to give them donations or sign up for new courses or levels? Will they give you a lie detector test -- to see if you have sins and secrets from them?

#21. Are their courses on: training sessions, spy or black propaganda training, mind processes, and auditing sessions etc., very, very expensive?

#22. Do they ask you or insist that you go into debt to pay for their expensive services, sessions or training?

#23. Do they have policies that will excuse your abuse and mistreatment of ex-members and/or do they encourage you to hurt ex-members without valid or legal reasons?

#24. Do they have a point system for defeating and hurting their enemies and/or critics and/or ex-members?

#25. if you run out of money, will they help you get free services or free courses or give you charity (food, shelter, travel expenses) until you find a job to repay them? Or do they think that charity is bad?